Posts by cha ching

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Help finding video

by Pubsinger in

sorry everyone i keep asking for help.. there was a short video someone put up, it had letts saying 'we reject the claims of apostates that we cover up child abuse' and then it cuts to court footage of elders saying they were aware under oath, then cuts back to the same clip of letts saying the same thing.

then more courtroom footage and back to letts saying it again.

it was a great clip.

cha ching

Thanks all for posting these.... So glad they exposed themselves publicly... forever on 'the web'!

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Getting married when you are spiritually out

by 1tMakesNoSence in

i met this amazing girl about 6years ago at my local congregation.

i was 100% in back then.

about 3years ago i woke up spiritually and kept it undercover till a few months ago.. this girl is still very in (but she doesnt really do the things a reaaal jw should do.

cha ching

OK, 1TmakesnoSence..... Were you raised in this? Even tho you have mentally gotten out, that doesn't mean she will ever be out in the same way that you are. Please, please, please do not do this to yourself.

I have seen so many people 'leave' the witnesses, be DF'd, not want to be one, didn't 'really' believe it... but still? something in the back of their head kept saying "maybe the new order will come".... One guy was going to marry a 'worldly girl' (he had been out, DF'd for years) but couldn't... he worried, "could I really give her the life she needs?" He still thinks about going back BECAUSE he wants to visit his brother.... He just stinkin' wants to play golf with his elder brother... so he thinks, "Maybe I should get reinstated so I can play golf with my long lost brother." Shunning, family, losing life is very difficult for anyone to endure.

Your girlfriend is still pretty young... she is still probably pretty close to her mom, right? What about her dad? sisters? brother? Family, shunning and ALL THAT ROT/ BLACKMAIL can change people.....it's hard.

Give both of YOU a break... Who wants to fight for half of your married life of "what you will and won't do"? Marriage is hard enough when your both on the same page, right? Surprisingly, you may just find another person you love as much, if not MORE.... That has happened to people over and over also....

Be fair to yourself, and her..... Maybe you could "call if off" for a year? then see where she stands... Let her decide without pressure... When anyone gets off the "hamster wheel" (no matter what it is) you can get a view of life from a different perspective.

Take care, take time.... be fair to the both of you.

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getting drivers licensene not same as getting baptized

by poopie in

jw
friends

if you get in an accident you will not be shunned by everyone in your family.

cha ching

"okay mom, I know I'm only 11, but I am baptized, so take me down to the DMV"

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getting drivers licensene not same as getting baptized

by poopie in

jw
friends

if you get in an accident you will not be shunned by everyone in your family.

cha ching

"mom, can I get married? I'm only 13, but I am baptized, and baptism is a greater responsibility then marriage right?"

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Compensation after 30 years

by umbertoecho in

i have waited for so long to see some sort of justice given to my daughters.

it is far too late for me.

i have the same story as so many do on this site, so i won't bore you.

cha ching

Dear Umbertoecho, thank you for sharing, what a difficult and brave thing you have done for a good cause... not only for yourself (you deserve justice) but also for your daughters. When people think they can get away with things, that dirty little secrets will be buried in dark corners of Kingdom Halls for "the sake of Jehovah's name" to "not bring reproach on the organization"....... that is when things get worse. It is not a "glory" for ANYone... God included.... that such terrible things happen. I hate it that JW's think that they are doing some wonderful deed by protecting evil. They SAY they are "Christian", but let us see them ACT as Jesus would... protecting the children. I am so glad you survived, went against the 'norm' the 'odds' went to court, and that the "worldly" judges, investigators and lawyers gave you support. You and your girls deserved it!

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UK Abuse case full judgment online

by Viva la Vida in

you can find the full judgement at this link: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/ewhc/qb/2015/1722.html.

judge compares wt with catholic church... .

cha ching

Very good, Cofty... thanks!!!

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I had breakfast with 50+ JWs on Sunday

by zimunzucz in

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friends

we pulled into a hotel parking lot saturday around 6pm on the return leg of a wonderful family vacation to new england - an then fate stepped in---a man in a suit got out of a car with the rest of a picture perfect family.

i immediately noticed all the name tags--- and my blood pressure spiked 50pts- damn!!

i was booked in a 4 story hotel full of jws-- the only time they took off the name tags was in the swimming pool- they were so proud of themselves.. at 6:30 am the hot water went cold in the wife's shower- what do you expect on the 4th floor when a herd of jws is trying to get ready at the same time?

cha ching

Hey Mr Z! I like your style!

Are you having a special talk today?"

"yes we are", he smiled

" I'll bet I know what it is- pause- It's called, 1914-2014, 100 years and nothing has happened , yet"

I am really going to try and practice thinking in these terms, short, funny, to the point, no wriggle room. Good idea about approaching the teens. they cannot resist being 'in the know.'

Thank you for posting! Cha Ching

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Why do you still give talks?

by 1tMakesNoSence in

assuming you are still sitting there because of circumstances.

why do you still give/don't give talks?i ask this because i have to give talk no.

3: love and obedience bring happinessnwt p. 26 4-6 (5 min.

cha ching

Just say, "I've learned all that I want to learn from the school, thanks very much, I am now moving on to other things I've wanted to learn"

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Barings Bank & the JWs

by Doltologist in

in the early 1990s, i was in a meeting.

we were making some major changes to the main it system of the company i worked for.

during the meeting i said, 'what would happen if one of our major customers went belly up and shouldn't we build something into the system to cope with this?'.

cha ching

I think that money might do it... People are crunched for money and time. If the publishers found out that this call for "more money for our tremendous need for more K Halls" was really resulting in a

1. selling off of K Halls on prime land

2. a combining of congregations due to less publishers

3. finding out the Society was lying, manipulating/ using them, asking for more and more and more while actually doing less and less (no K Halls being built, but sold... no "missionaries" coming home for the conventions.... no real costs but more $$$$$ needed)

I think that this would really get people mad. Not doctrine... Money!

Facts and figures, that is what is needed (remember when they ask for more money at the Circuit Assembly? "We are behind by $5,000" then "Oh, we have $6,000 extra, let's send it to Bethel!!" "Yay!" Such liars, they were never behind, it was a terrible rue they used every weekend to rake in the money! Shame on "God's true organization")

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Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body knows they scare CHILDREN with Doomsday False prophecies

by Watchtower-Free in

the governing body knows they scare children.

from the may jwbroadcasting puke-a-sode at the1hr 5 minute mark .31 second clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqeey0uyvuw.

cha ching

My sister, unbeknownst to me, was terrified of this picture..... She remembered every detail... She couldn't sleep at night... since age five, she was horrified of the coming "great" tribulation and Armageddon.

Not until we left the Borg a few years ago did she tell me this... Fear, a terrible thing, an evil thing to weigh on the minds of innocent children who should be enjoying their youth!